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Episode 65 - Marco Rose out, Zsolt Löw in terrible move by Red Bull

In this episode Justin tells the listeners all the latest news surrounding RB Leipzig with Bellingham possibly making the move to Cottaweg, we find out Marco Rose has been sacked with mixed emotions on if it was the right time or not with an explosive RBL talk segment surrounding the issue, we find out the chances of Benjamin Seško staying at RB Leipzig next season are very slim, we recap the 1-0 loss to Borussia Mönchengladbach in the Bundesliga, we preview the DFB Pokal semi-final against VfB Stuttgart which will be new interim boss Zsolt Löw first game in charge. Injury list update with Xaver Schlager reinjured and out for several more weeks plus more in this episode.

Make sure to join in the interactive live-stream during the DFB Pokal semi final on YouTube, twitch and X.

In the RBL talk segment we have listener questions from ClaudeJ, Kiran, Cyril, and rob3r7o from the RB fans discord, with aljosjafelix, rl9lewyfan and pia_hffmr from Instagram.


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Transcript
Justin Crozer:

Hello everyone and welcome to RBL Talk.

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On today's show we have some club news.

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We recap the one year

loss to brochure mission.

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GLAD back in the Bundesliga.

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On match day 27, I'll preview the

semi-final against VFB Stuttgart.

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Which will be a livestream watch along.

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So make sure to join in the coverage

if you can't get to the game.

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And we have the RBL talk segment

with your listener input on the show,

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starting with club news.

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The big news is that RBL Live

have parted ways with Marco Rosa.

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Marco Rosa has been relieved

of his duties as Rrb Lick head

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coach with immediate effect.

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His coaching team of Alexander

Zickler, Marco K and Frank Eck have

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also left the club along with Frank.

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Aing head of the first team football,

Marcel Shafer, the managing of

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sport director, had this to say.

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We have believed in our co-operation

with Marco and his team for a very long

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time, and up to now tried everything

to turn things around together.

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Given the development and the continued

lack of results, we're all firmly

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convinced that we need new impetus for

the remainder of the campaign in order

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to achieve our aims for the season.

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We'd like to thank Marco and his coaching

team for the past two and a half years.

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The success we enjoyed together

and their commitment to the club.

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Marco Rose took over the head coach role

at RB Leipzig in September,:

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club found itself in a tricky position and

helped the side get back to winning waves.

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He was on the sideline for a total

of 125 games under his stewardship.

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RBL Qualified for the Year

for Champions League twice.

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Won the second DFB AU in the club's

history and emerged at Victorious

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in the Super Cup for the first time.

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The club will announce he'll take

over the Head Coach role on an

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interim basis in due course, and that

person is Ziot low appointed as head

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coach until the end of the season.

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I do apologize if I've

said that incorrectly.

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It's probably Louv as it

has the dots over the o.

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But Zula Lu has been appointed new head

coach of RB Zi, the 45-year-old who was

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previously head of soccer development at

Red Bull, will sign a contract until the

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end of the 24 25 season and take charge

of his first training session on Monday.

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Peter Crows 53 years old, will be

Lowe's assistant coach in lab Zg.

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Marcel Shafer of the managing

sport director had this to say.

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Has got everything we need to turn

things around quickly and give

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performance boost an incredible amount

of experience, a lot of success at top

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European clubs and the right approach.

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It's now up to the team to turn

the tide together with result.

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At the time we're working on finding

a permanent head coach for the start

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of the 25, 26 season, and new interim

manager, Zola Lo, had this to say.

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We are fully focused on the maximum

nine remaining games of the season.

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We've still got the chance to achieve

our goals in two competitions.

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We'll do everything we can to reach the

DFPP our final in Berlin and get the most

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out of the remaining Bunes Liga matches.

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At RBL, he was an assistant coach under

Ralph Hassan Hule and Ralph Renick.

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From 2015 to 2018, he worked as

Thomas Chu's assistant at Para

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Saint Germa at from 2018 to 2020.

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Chelsea, 21 to 22, and FC by Munich 2324.

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He has also been a coach at FC ING 20 12

and Red Bull Salzburg,:

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Lowe has won the Champions League

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assistant coach and as well as titles

and Austria:

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During his playing career, he

was a defender for TSG Hoffenheim

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and FC Mines in the Bundesliga.

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Xavier Schlager out

injured for several weeks.

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RB Abig midfield.

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Xavier Schlager will be missing

for several weeks due to suffering

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another injury with the national team.

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Schlager has gained a muscle injury

in his left thigh, which was the

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result of A MRI examination in lo Zg.

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Marco Rosa recently welcomed Schlager

back to the Leipzig team after recovering

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from his second knee injury in 10

months to play against Bohi Dortmund

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before the recent international

fixtures, but did not make an

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appearance from the bench in that match.

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Instead, he was given some minutes

from the bench in Austria's one one

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draw against Serbia in the Nation's

league first leg fixture as he

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entered the pitch in the 77th minute.

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This now seems to have been a return

that was too soon for the midfielder.

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The new injury hits us very

hard, especially Xavier himself

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said It must have Shafer.

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I'll be IC Sporting director.

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He worked extremely hard for his

comeback and gave everything to be

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able to help us with his qualities

in the final spur of the season.

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He was supposed to get his last match

fitness with national team, but now

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he's forced to take another break.

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We give Xavier all the support he needs.

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Now, of course, it's annoying that.

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We'll have another injury to report

after the international break.

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Schlager has made just four appearances

in the Bundesliga this season and will

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be aiming for a return before the 20 14

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eight Bunns Legger games remaining.

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His team are also in the DFPP house,

semifinal against Stuttgart next

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Wednesday with the final taking place

on the 24th of May, which Schlager could

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return for if recovery is successful.

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The chances of Benjamin Sesco staying

at RB Live Zg next season are very slim.

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Bill reports that the chances of

Benjamin Sesco staying at RB live

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Zg for another season are very slim.

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As all signs pointed towards an exit.

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Sesco has a release clause and he's

live zg clause that is currently worth

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70 million Euro that can rise to 80

million Euro by the end of the season.

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The Slovenian has also has a

contract that is valid until:

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Despite being very inconsistent on

the pitch, SESCO feels like he's ready

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to take the next step in his career.

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The one condition that could

potentially keep the 21-year-old

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at the club is if Leip sync

qualify for the Champions League.

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However, the chances of that

at the moment are very slim.

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The Striker has attracted interest

from the Premier League Arsenal,

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Manchester United, AC Milan, Italy,

even by Munich in the Bunes Liga.

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A move to Bain has almost ruled

out as he does not want to play

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as a backup to Harry Cain and

wants a guarantee of playing time.

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For that to be possible, Byan would need

to change their formation or sell Cain.

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As of right now, SCO is currently

focused on trying to qualify for

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the Champions League with live Zg.

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RB Lab Zg expected to

permanently sign on loan.

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Aston Villa Fallback Costa and

Kovich Sky Germany reports that Rrb

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Lab Zg are expected to complete the

permanent signing of right back.

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Costa and Kovich, who is currently on

loan from Aston Villa Lab, ZG sees the

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S Serbian as a signing for the future.

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Who they can also sign

at a reasonable price.

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Although no concrete decision has

been made, the signs are positive.

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The 19-year-old only signed for Parent

Club Villa last summer from Native

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Red Star Belgrade, but struggled

for game time in the Premier League,

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only playing 10 times Since moving

to Loeb, Zig in the winter and

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Kovich has made three appearances.

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The FIFA and Kovich is likely

to be around 15 million Euro.

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A 10.5

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million Euro base fee and 4.5

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million Euro in add-ons.

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Since the injury to Benjamin

Hendricks at the back end of last

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calendar year, the right back

position has been a problem area for

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Leipzig in the winter ride or back.

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U has also joined as a backup option for

Hendricks and has been the main option.

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Bellingham on the RB Leipzig's radar.

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Could we see Bellingham in

the Bundesliga yet again?

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While R Madrid's Jew Bellingham

won't be changing clubs anytime soon.

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His younger brother job just might be,

and RB Leipzig have him on the radar.

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Joe Bellingham currently plays in

the second English division for

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Sunderland who are in fourth place.

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He is as per transfer market, the most

valuable player in the league with

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a market value of 22 million euros.

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But a transfer fee is rumored

to be around 30 million Euro rb.

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Loebig have helped a lot of big talents

take up the next step in recent years.

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Chubby Simmons, Benjamin Sesco, Danny

Olmo, and just Val, just to name a few.

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Jay Bellingham contract

runs until June of:

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And is a lot of Premier League

clubs are already interested in

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his signature RB Leig, even face

competition from within the Bunga.

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Doman have been watching

Job closely for a while.

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Sky Germany have reported that there have

been talks between Bellingham and Leipzig

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already, but any kind of agreement is not

close at the moment that see if the Bundes

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le can add the name Bellingham once again

to their very talented roster of players.

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And final piece of news in this

episode is Bremen unlikely to sign

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Andre Silver on a permanent deal.

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Kier suggests that word of Bremen are

looking increasingly unlikely to sign

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Andre Silver on a permanent basis.

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In the summer.

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The Portuguese striker arrived on loan

from RB Zi in the January transfer window

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and has underwhelmed since, despite silver

scoring his first goal from the penalty

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spot against GLAD back before the break.

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The other four performances

have yielded nothing.

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Even though the 29-year-old still

has eight Bunga games to prove

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himself, signs are pointing to Breman.

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Looking at other options of the

Summer, Silva then faces the decision

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of moving on from RBL Live Zg to

om he's contracted with until:

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That's all the news for

this RBL talk episode.

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As always, you can go to the RB talk.com

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and click on the link there

with R Blab Z Club News and

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get the latest news from there.

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And now to preview the brochure machine.

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Glad back game with the

good, the bad, and the ugly.

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Always starting with the good.

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What we did right?

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Keeper made two saves.

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That was Martine Vanderbilt had

43 touches in the penalty area.

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Earned 2000, the final third to have

set pieces in dangerous positions, 75%

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passing accuracy into the final third.

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That was a total of 152 out of 199 passes.

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We made 62 recoveries.

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We won more tackles than GLAD back.

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73% of challenges successful with

10 of 15, 11 shots inside the box.

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That's 57.89%.

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Made more passes in the attacking

half of the pitch 266 passes to 182.

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Now for the bad, what we did wrong,

we had more possession, 60% to 40% and

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did nothing with it, creating zero big

chances, we'll pour from set pieces.

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As we have been all season, we didn't

look like we would score yet alone cause

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any issues to the glad back defense.

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We were undisciplined committing

nine fouls and two yellow cards.

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One from Tedium Gomez after coming on

as a substitute, after not being on for

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a minute, wasteful in front of goal.

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19.

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Total shots offside, four times poor

from crosses with an accuracy of 21%

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with seven out of 33 being on target.

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Weakened the contest, losing all dues,

ground and aerial, both 48% to 52%.

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And then for the ugly, what we did

really wrong, we made three areas

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that led to a shot at golf for glad

back 11 of the 19 shots off target.

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That's 57.89%.

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Just not good enough, especially when you

are, the team facing is supposed to be

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challenging for the same spot You are.

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A European football competition spot.

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Three things we learned via GLAD Back.

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Number one, Willie's possession

too much and can't retain the ball.

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Plays like David.

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Round 29, ch Simmons.

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Baum Gardner 19.

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Be Shabu 15.

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These are plays in key positions in

buildup play, who have lost the ball

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in an incredible amount of times.

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We need to work on this.

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ASAP.

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The total of that is 83 times

from just these four plays.

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They lost the ball.

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Almost once per minute.

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Number two, it's getting more prominent

that we are not a European football side

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of the Bundesliga and do not deserve to

play any European football next season.

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Number three.

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This one is now from

Outgoing Manager, Marco Rosa.

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Marco Rosa.

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Was on a slippery slope,

but he has always been.

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Marco averages a 56.08%

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win percentage, winning 226 of

403 total games across his career.

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130 of those at RBL.

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His first season in charge,

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sorry, 2.17

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points per game.

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Winning 28.

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Of 41 games in the Bunns

Leaguer alone, he averaged 2.1

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points per game

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the following season, 2324.

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He went downward, averaged 1.87

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points per game.

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Winning 25 or 45 games and averaging 1.91

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points per game in the Buddha Leaguer.

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This season, he's won 16

of 38 games averaging 1.5

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points per game, and 1.5

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to six in the Buns Leaguer.

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This is exactly what

happened at Glad Back.

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He started well averaging 1.91

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points per game, then drop to 1.44

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in the Oleg at the following season.

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Marco Rosa goes really well to begin

with, but he can't sustain that

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consistency and always falls off.

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He's did the same at GLAD Back over

the few years it's happened at RB

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Leipzig and at his previous clubs.

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Besides RB Salzberg, so British Tand,

it just went a bit more quicker.

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Now for the detailed summary and recap.

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Player watch players for glad back.

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It was ano player who played

81 minutes until he was subbed

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off after getting a cramp.

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Had 45 touches, five total shots,

three blocked, two off target, one on

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target with a goal, hit the woodwork

twice and missed one big chance.

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One one of five ground duals at

20% success Rate one, three or four

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aerial duals at 75% success rate.

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Lost possession 16 times and

made 17 of 26 passes with one key

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pass at a success rate of 65%.

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According to the one football

app, he had a match rating of 9.2,

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but I would give him a rating of 8.5.

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For RBL it was Rydel.

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Baku.

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He played 64 minutes until he was

subbed off after getting a yellow card.

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Had 43 touches.

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One total shot which was off target,

one zero of five ground duels at

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0% success rate one zero of one

aerial duels at 0% success rate.

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Lost possession 11 times.

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Made 24 of 28 passes with one key

pass at a success rate of 86%.

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Committed.

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Three Fouls for one Yellow card

made one clearance and was offside

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once According to the one football

app, he had a match rating of 3.4.

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Dunno how that works, but I

would give him a rating of 5.0.

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British Mission.

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Glad Back took a huge step towards

finishing in the Bundesligas top six

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by beating RBL one nil with their first

win of the season against the side.

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Who started?

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This round, ninth or higher.

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It was the fifth versus seventh in the

buns leaguer, which at this late stage of

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the season had the feel of a six pointer.

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Glad back were on the side doing

the chasing, and they had the chance

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to leapfrog Leipzig with a win.

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Here the home side started on the front

foot and manufacture the games first.

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Meaningful sighting of goal when

Alexander players flick over.

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Opened up a yard of space for Robin

Hack, but his volley went straight

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into the grateful arms of Martine.

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Vanderbilt, RBL were largely

limited to shots from distance.

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Something best illustrated by Chavy

Simmons' effort from distance,

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which barely reached the goal line.

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A drab first half with something

few would've expected from two

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sides battling at the top of the

end of the table, but with plenty

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for the play for after the break.

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There was a sense that the

second 45 couldn't be any worse.

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RBL said about ensuring the second half

was much more entertaining from the

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get go, working a glorious sighting of

goal within a minute of the restart.

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But Christ Baum Gardner fired

his effort inches over the bar.

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The Austrian was in the thick

of the action moments later too.

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Ghosting into the area to

flash a header narrowly wide.

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The visitors were left to

rule these missed chances.

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Just moments later when Glad Back took

the lead, co Ike thought he would be the

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man to get it, but his gold band effort

was only repelled as far as player who

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Julie converted from Close Range, the

Frenchman was appearing after his goal.

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And he came within inches of doubling

his and glad backs tally for the

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day when his strike from the edge of

the area crashed away off the post.

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The woodwork was shaking again 20 minutes

from time, but this time it was from Nico

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Vedi, who's headed effort bounced away to

the safety off the outside of the post.

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The host will think they really should

have had the game wrapped up to avoid

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a nerve ending, not least because they

rattled the woodwork for a third time.

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The half though clear, but their inability

to convert one of those chances meant they

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had to endure a painful last few minutes.

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They managed to hang on though securing

three points in their battle to

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finish in the top six and consigning

RBL to a fourth consecutive scoring

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bleak on the road in the pun, liga.

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Now let's dissect that goal

conceded in the 56th minute.

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This is going to be brief,

but we conceded two corners.

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A Lasana player got a free run at

the first one and his header was

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deflected for a second corner.

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The second one, nobody marked him.

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He just reads the ball quicker than

Willie or Ben and anyone else in

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the area and is first to react.

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And it's actually Lucas Klosterman,

who was a few meters away.

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Who reads it first before our captain

who was right next to the play?

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An unusual misjudgment there.

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We need to just mark our players

better to prevent this one.

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The best players for Glad back were Tiago,

Piera, Cardoso, coura, and Asana player.

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The best players for RBL were

Willie Orban, Nicholas Sal,

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El bu Kristopher, Baumgartner.

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And now for a quick suspension

and injury list, update Ivy Ziga.

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Still without Xavier Schlager,

Benjamin Henricks and OS Drago.

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Players close to returning in some

capacity are Antonio, er, oor,

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Drago, Kevin Campbell and Peter gci.

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To preview the upcoming semifinal in

the DFB poal against VFB Stuttgart

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with Marco Rosa being freshly

sacked and in the players' minds.

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They'll need to gather themselves quickly

as we have a semifinal to focus on.

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Stu Gut would be without Dan Axel

Zou, Joshua Van Noman, Justin Dale

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and Luca Ryman for this matchup.

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The Swb have been on a losing run

of six games and haven't won a

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game since the 9th of February when

they beat British Dortmund two one.

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Dropping points against TSG

Hoffenheim and Holstein Keel, along

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with poor performances against

the top four in that losing run.

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RBL will be without Xavier Schlager, Benny

Henricks as Drago with question marks

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around Antonio Noosa, Peter gci and Kevin

Campbell, who all could be available come

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Wednesday night dependent on training.

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This will be the first time VFB stood Gut

and RBL have played each other in the DFB.

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Some interesting match facts

leading to this game are VFB.

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Haven't won a match in six attempts.

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VFB haven't kept a clean

sheet and seven matches.

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VFP have won the previous

two matches against RBL.

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This will be the first game under

new RBL Coach OTT Low and Benjamin

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Sesco is the top scorer in the

competition for RBL with three goals.

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player watch for both sides will be.

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For VFB, Deni av, putting pen to

th of June,:

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standout season last year on l Stuttgart.

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To say he's underperforming

from expectations on last

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season is an understatement.

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In the DFBP, he's played three times.

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For 143 minutes for one goal and assist.

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And in the bunger, he's played

21 games and scored seven goals

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with one assist in 1,273 minutes.

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Look for AV to find his

scoring boots in this one

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for RBL.

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Chaffy Simmons since making his deal

permanent in January of this year,

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the Dutchman has underperformed and

is not worth the 80 million Euro with

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bonuses, purchases from PSG losing

the ball regularly and not showing

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up when the team needs him the most.

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Look for chaffy to come alive in a

cup final and do something special

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and prove his expensive price tag.

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What I'd like to see in

this match with my lineup.

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New coach, same problems.

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Nothing is going to change

overnight and this was the wrong

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time to sack manager Marco Rosa.

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Personally, I'm not expecting

much as the players will still

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be needing to go out and perform.

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We may see a more fired up RBL due to

the sacking of the much loved rose.

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The new manager hasn't had any

experience as a senior manager so

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he could line up with anything.

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However, for me, I would go with

a 5, 3, 2 on paper, but a 3 5 2

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in attack with the wingbacks going

forward with high pressing and fast

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counter attacking football in gold.

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Martine Van Dewart routines his spot back.

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Five of realm Leba.

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Orban Keytruda and Baku with Realman

Baku to overlap to make a midfield five

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in attack and one to even push as far

to make it a front three in midfield.

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Two central box to box midfielders

of Vermeer and Nicholas Siwa.

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Chavy Simmons is a free roaming

number 10 behind the two strikers of

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Louis app Pender and Benjamin Sesco

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for predictions for the seconding of Rose.

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The prediction doesn't change.

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Two.

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Two, draw to lose five.

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Four on penalties.

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Either way, I can't see

anything but a loss in this one.

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We are unorganized and many issues

need to be resolved and can't

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just be fixed in a matter of days.

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This knee jerk reaction from the club in

a desperate attempt to get into the top.

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Four more on this coming up.

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Remember, you can be a part of the

show too with the RBL Talk segment.

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You even come on the

show as a special guest.

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The way you do this is by interacting

with us on Spotify social media such

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as X or email in at show@rbltalk.com.

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More information in detail, how

to get involved with the show

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for free in the show notes it.

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Before we go into the fan submissions,

as I don't wanna take away anything

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from them, I've got some things

to say about the club and how

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it's dealt with the situation.

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This is the part of the episode where

if you've got little ones in the room

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or around you, you might wanna save this

one for later, as I'm not holding back.

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You've been warned.

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Okay, so this is going to be marked

as explicit for this exact reason.

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Every single manager at

Red Bull have fucked up.

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It's as simple as that.

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You had a choice to sack Marco Rosa

many, many times throughout this season,

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and you've decided now just three

or four days out from a semi-final,

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you know how fucking stupid that is.

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Really stupid.

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Okay, I get it.

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You wanna get top four?

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If you wanted to have top four and

you didn't want to go as far as

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you have with Marco Rosa, then you

should have done it in the December

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winter transfer break SA in December.

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At the start of it, give a new manager

a couple of games, and then you can

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have Marco Rosa go back with his family.

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How the contracts work is you have to

pay him out anyway and they can spend the

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family in the new year with his family.

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And he doesn't have to worry about

the football, doesn't have to

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worry about how he gets his job.

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Or anything like that, but for months

and months and months, Marcel Saffer

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specifically and all of the Red Bull

Board, you've fucking backed this man.

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You've backed him every fucking time.

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All US fans have turned around

and said at some point S Rose or.

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Rows out or it's time to go and

you say, we're going to back him.

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He's committed to the club.

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He's committed to the project.

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Everyone loves him.

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Yeah, I love him too.

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But the football was bullshit.

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The football was crap.

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Week in, week out, same fucking spew.

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Okay, now you've turned around

and now you've sacked him.

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Bunch of snakes.

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Don't turn around and sack him.

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At this point of the season,

at least give him the DFB cup.

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Okay, so if he lost against Stuttgart

on Wednesday night, then dismiss him.

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If he got into the final, but we didn't

get top four or whatever it is that the

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club is achieving here, it should be

top four for Champions League football.

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Then let him know beforehand and go, look

Marco, we are going to have to let you go.

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This will be your final game in

the DFB Popoff Cup final and.

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That's it.

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Next season, go get another manager.

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Okay?

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We're not gonna play UFA

Champions League football.

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Yes, we're gonna be struggling for a

year, but he's been our best successful

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manager for the whole entire time

of our club in our short history.

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And he's fucking deserved that

he's deserved to go and play.

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And so if Za Lo wins this

cup, he gets gifted a cup.

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Marco Rosa actually made the

foundations with the team to win the

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cup if we get there, and you're just

going to rip that away from him.

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Fucking piss poor performance from

Red Bull and all the owners there.

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Now that's out of the way.

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We can go onto the fan submissions and

if you do have little ones around, you

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can get them to come back into the room.

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So staying with Marco Rosa and

the fans on the RB Discord channel

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had a bit of a chatter about it.

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RBL Talk, member Claude J.

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Had this to say would be awesome

to get words from the inside.

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I.

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As to where the pressure came from

to get everyone out in such a rush,

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at least would appear to be a rush.

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One can think that King Jergen

had at least a say in this or not.

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It's an exciting time as

is now for a new beginning.

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I hope they will bring in someone more

Red Bull like even with less street rep.

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Funny thing about the last game is

that we probably didn't think we were

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watching Marco Rose's last chance.

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Absolutely clawed.

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No one thought it was gonna

be Marco Rose's last chance.

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Considering the club has backed him,

day in, day out for months and months

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and months, ever since our horrid

performance, even as far back as

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November, possibly earlier last year, I.

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And then you'd drop him

at the drop of a hat.

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Like that's just very

poor form from Red Bull.

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Uh, that's not acceptable.

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I think that's really poor and it

sets a really bad image as well.

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We are looking like, going to

be looking what Chelsea was

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doing under Roman Abramovich.

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You know, you could still win

a cup title and you could still

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be sacked like Marco Rosa didn't

deserve to be sacked at this point.

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At least give him until the semifinal

lot like against VFB stood gut.

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And then if he loses against Stu

Gut, then you can get rid of him.

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Right.

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Not now.

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It's a really poor, poor

timing from the club.

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And that's being generous.

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I've said.

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I think mostly everything I've needed

to say on that before, and it does

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seem like it is a very rushed and.

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It's really wondering why.

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I think maybe there's a bit of unrest

for some players like Benjamin Sesco,

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Chavy Simmons, maybe, you know, even

Louis App Pender, you know, a couple

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of other players, they might have said,

look, if you can't give us Champions

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League football, we are leaving.

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Or the club has stupidly put that

in their contracts where there's a

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clause that if we don't play Champions

League football, that they can leave.

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:

Which wouldn't surprise me, but it

does seem like we will get someone

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Red Bull, like with Ott Low.

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:

So he's been in the Red Bull

system before and he's been with

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some good managers, so only time

will tell to see what will happen.

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But.

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I'm still hoping that we don't

even get Champions League football.

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I hope that we don't win the

DFB Pcal final or even the cup.

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Now, if we get into the final that is,

uh, for the simple factors, the Red

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Bull and all the hierarchy and all the

managers, you brought it on yourselves.

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You should have so pulled the trigger,

so to speak, beat the bullet and.

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For lack of better terminology,

and you should have turned around

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and fired Marco Rosa when you had

the chance months and months ago.

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Otherwise, you stick with 'em to

the end of the season like the

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original plan was supposed to be.

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But it is an exciting time, but I do

think the more exciting time will be at

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the end of the season and see who we get.

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I really don't hope, I really hope

that we don't stick with Zoloft low

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for the long foreseeable future.

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Also on the RB fans, discord member, Mr.

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Banter Bear said just before the Phole

match, not a good move for the club.

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We all knew this was going to happen at

some point due to the silly game losses.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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We all knew that he was going

to get fired sooner or later.

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There was a lot of delusional fans

who liked Marco Rosa, and a lot of the

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locals were a bit delusional as well.

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And that's no knock on the local

fans or anything like that.

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But a lot of them love him so

much and they always got rose

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:

colored glasses on, pardon the pun.

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And you know, he could do no wrong.

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But at the end of the day, yes,

we're a small club, but our ambitions

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is and should always be to play.

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Champions League football every year,

especially in the Bunes Leaguer.

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So if we're not doing that, it doesn't

matter who you are, it doesn't matter if

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:

you're a local manager, doesn't matter

if you are, you know, pet Guardiola,

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Alex Ferguson, uh, you know, any top

man, Joso Marino, you know, uh, Marino.

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:

It doesn't matter who Rafael Benitez,

who you are, if you can't deliver

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:

what the club minimum standards

are, you're not the manager.

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:

It's simple as that.

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Sticking with the RB fans, discord.

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Rob three seven R seven O says

that's a really nice news.

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I like Rose and I think he was a good

coach, but it's the right time to change,

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:

but I wish him nothing but the best.

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:

Well, that's some conflicting

information there.

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:

Uh, some people think that

it wasn't the right time.

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:

I'm one of those people to

get rid of him, but, uh.

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:

You do.

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:

So look, you're entitled

to your own opinion.

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:

I'm definitely not saying it's wrong

or anything, but I would also like to

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know if there's any other listeners

that think that it was the right time

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:

to change as of now, or was it not?

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Let me know down to the comments below

or on Spotify comments or wherever

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:

you listen to this podcast or send

a RBL submission in for the next

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:

episode and let me know what you think.

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Last one from the discord.

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About Marco.

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Rosa is from Cyril is, thank you Marco.

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Rose, I'm not sure about the timing.

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Surely not before a semi-final.

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I reckon we move for 10 Hugg now.

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Yeah.

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Cyril.

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Um, I would also like to take this

moment as well to say thank you

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to Marco, Rosa, all the staff and

everything that you've given to the club.

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Even though I've been one of your

biggest critics in, in some cases,

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you've always been very well on the

microphone in press conferences,

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you've always done right by the fans.

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You've always done right by the players.

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Sometimes, there's a few things

that you could have done on the

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pitch that you haven't done, but

look, everyone's not perfect.

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I'm not perfect myself.

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I have some flaws as well, but you

were the right manager for the club

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and I did want to see you succeed.

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:

It would've looked good for both a public

image and also a global image to have

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a local at the helm of the football

club and taking us to the next level.

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But you just weren't the right

manager to take us to that next level.

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Uh, unfortunately, maybe, hopefully

we'll see you again someday, Marco Rosa.

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Uh, I wouldn't be against having

you as another manager when we have

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better players and the club's a

bit more successful, I guess you

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could say, for lack of better words.

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But, uh, thank you Marco Rosa

for everything that you've done.

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Uh, it's gonna be, I actually gonna miss,

uh, watching your press conferences.

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On Instagram.

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:

A-L-J-O-S-J-A.

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:

Felix says.

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At the start of the season, he held

the best point average per game

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:

than any of our former managers.

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Now he's just below tedesco

for the same metric.

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Sure.

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To be fair, that is after a season

with a horrible UCL draw, a squad

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crippled with injuries and a

more intense schedule than ever.

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I find rose to be lacking in terms

of squad rotation, but he has been

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:

good with the media, the players, and

he has been fairly a adaptable too.

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The lack of depth and priority of

two expensive forwards instead of

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a broad ball progressing lineup is

somewhat upper management flaw as

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:

well that needs to be dealt with.

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All praise for Rose and

his legacy at the Club.

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Honestly, hope to see him raise

hell at a national team soon.

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:

That's a very, very

heartwarming and good comment.

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:

This wasn't actually for the RBL talk

segment, but I saw it on Instagram

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:

to the post when I said that the

club was parting ways and I had to

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:

put this out there because that is

something that raises a tear to the eye.

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It just goes to show that all

the local fans really love this

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guy and the club's done wrong to

all the local fans, to be honest.

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:

Uh, and it's not the first time

either that the club management

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have done wrong by the local fans.

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And I, for one, uh, outraged by it.

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:

If you listen to the bit before

when I said to make sure that there

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:

are no kids in the room at this

point, but moving on to post about

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:

the game or general submissions.

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Back to the RB fans Discord.

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Cyril says, an underwhelming performance

hardly provided any threat at all Points

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:

dropped, and a step away from fourth.

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:

It's hard to be optimistic for Wednesday.

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Yeah, Cyril, look, it's, it's still

hard to be optimistic for Wednesday

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:

especially 'cause considering we.

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Have gotten a new manager pretty

much overnight, which makes me

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think that Red Bull have already

had this planned for at least a, a

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:

few weeks or something like that.

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:

I don't see them being, you know,

a drop of a hat, so to speak,

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:

even that's what it seems to be.

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:

But it just means that they've calculated

this beforehand and just goes to show

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:

of what I said earlier about, you know,

them being snakes, publicly backing the

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:

dude, and then you turn around and just.

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Stab him in the back, for

lack of better terminology.

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Um, I didn't deserve that and I'm

not optimistic at all for Wednesday,

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:

like I said earlier, I hope we lose.

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:

I hope, we go down as low

as eighth or something.

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Like I don't want us to play

Champions League football or any

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European football next season.

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:

Uh, and I just wanna rub it into

the club and be like, well, you

623

:

put us in this mess, it's now

up to you to get us out of it.

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:

So you should have stuck with Marco Rosa.

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:

It was a better time to sack him,

but we'll see how it happens.

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:

If you are not going to be able to

go to the game, join in the live

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:

stream and comment along and we can

all put the new manager under the

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:

microscope and see how he performs.

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:

Uh, L nine Louis fan says on Instagram.

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:

What do you think is the correct

decision to sack him now?

631

:

Uh, no.

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:

No.

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:

So if you listened a little bit

earlier, uh, I'll try not to repeat

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:

myself as I've said everything that

I needed to say, in short, he should

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:

have been sacked after Wednesday

night if he lost against Stuttgart,

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:

if they were going to sack him at all.

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:

Otherwise, end of season, uh, you

can't change anything now anyway,

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:

so they're just gonna try and get

like a boost or something, or a.

639

:

You know that sometimes you can get

a new manager in and do a bit better.

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:

You're not gonna be able to change any

of the foundations of how the football

641

:

is played or anything like that.

642

:

For the simple fact of, it takes

time, it takes weeks, it takes months

643

:

to start even implementing that.

644

:

Not alone it, coming off out

onto the pitch on match day.

645

:

So definitely not the right time to sack

Marco Rosa and I think the club did him

646

:

dirty and that doesn't sit well with me.

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:

Uh, quite simply.

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:

So, yeah, no, I think he should have

at least been till end of season

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:

Wednesday, after Wednesday night.

650

:

If we lost, that would've

been the earliest.

651

:

Also, on Instagram, P-I-A-H-H-F Fmr

says, well, what else can one say

652

:

again about it again, far too little?

653

:

Performance Gold Champions League is

moving further and further into distance.

654

:

Yep.

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:

That's pretty much the path that

we're going to be on, and it is

656

:

a hard reality for some people.

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:

I'm not saying you're yourself.

658

:

Um, with that submission, I just

mean, uh, the RB fan base as a whole.

659

:

Uh, a lot of them are in denial.

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:

A little bit of just how far

we've dropped off and actually

661

:

what type of club that we are.

662

:

'cause we're actually not

a Champions League side.

663

:

We definitely don't have the squad

depth and we don't have the players.

664

:

We have players that are individuals

and good on some days, but

665

:

they don't work well together.

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:

So you're not going to go too far in com.

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:

International competitions in Europe.

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:

For the type of style of

football that we have and the

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:

caliber of plays that we have.

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:

So

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:

that's pretty much all I can say.

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:

As always, I'd like to thank the

contributors for their contributions

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:

in this episode in RBL Talk, all

RBL talk members, and thank you

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:

for listening to this podcast.

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If you could take a moment to rate

us where you listen to this podcast,

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:

write a quick review, tell a friend

about the show, really helps us find

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:

new listeners and grow the show.

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So until next time,

I've been Justin Crozer.

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Bye-bye for now.

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Dedicated supporter since '09 from Adelaide, South Australia Justin has followed his football team from afar and has never looked back. Justin has an undying love for RB Leipzig, tactics and football as a whole. RBL talk is aimed to give everyone a voice around the globe and Justin's welcoming nature and professional delivery comes out across the podcast episodes released.

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'09 - '12: Justin first started out watching games of fans live streams during the games until RB Leipzig got promoted into the 3. Liga

'13 - '16: Justin watched his favourite club climb through the ranks including being promoted to the 2. Bundesliga in their very first season in 3. Liga in the 2013/2014 season.

'16 - '20: Justin watched the rise of RB Leipzig as the club came onto the domestic and world stage including the remarkable 67pts runner up season to Bayern Munich in our very first season in the Bundesliga the top flight division in German football. A fantastic but also dreaded feeling the emotions of football.

'20 - '24: Justin witnessed and felt first hand the highs and lows of football winning our first DFB Pokal trophies in '22 and '23 respectively but also getting beaten in the semi-finals of the UEFA Champions League and beaten in the 4-1 demolition job of the DFB Pokal final in 2021 which sparked creating the podcast.

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