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Episode 62 - Marcel Schäfer will not comment on Marco Rose future, fans want answers

In this episode Justin informs the listeners of the latest news including the DFB pokal semi-final draw as Die Roten Bullen have drawn an unfavourable opponent and after another disappointing performance and result for RB Leipzig, Marcel Schäfer didn't want to comment on the growing pressure on head coach Marco Rose leaving fans in the lurch as fans struggle to find answers on where the club is heading. We recap the 2-1 loss to Manz successfully predicted in the previous episode and look at player watch players for that game and our next game against SC Freburg in the Bundesliga along with predictions, with rounding out the show with the RBL talk segment.

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Justin: Hello, everyone,

and welcome to RBL Talk.

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On today's show, we have some club news.

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We recap the 2 1 defeat to Mainz in the

Bundesliga that was successfully predicted

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by the podcast in the previous episode.

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Our preview matchday 25 in the

Bundesliga against SC Freiburg.

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We will also have player watch

and a predictions analysis.

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And also in the RBL talk segment,

your listener, input on the show.

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In club news in this episode, Marco

Rosa comments on lethargic RB Leipzig.

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We lost energy.

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RB Leipzig head coach Marco Rose's

concerns that his team might be tiring

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out manifested in a grim reality

on Saturday afternoon in Mainz.

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The German Red Bulls dropped

a crucial Bundesliga fixture

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to European rivals Mainz 05.

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The match very much served

as a European six pointer.

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Matters couldn't have gotten worse

for Rose's side, who looked very

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lethargic after Chavi Simmons

opened the scoring in the minute

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before Mainz went on to win 2 1.

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Mainz and Leipzig entered the contest

deadlocked on 38 league points.

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The result now sees Mines open

up a three point gap and move

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into fourth place, while Rose's

Saxons remain mirrored in sixth.

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Wolfsburg, Borussia Mönchengladbach

and Dortmund, all winners on Saturday,

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nip at Leipzig's heels in the race

for the second Europa League place.

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Stuttgart too are within

easy striking distance.

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Rose found himself unable to rest as

many players as he might have liked.

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Emoto Hidara, for Kevin Campbell,

served as the lone outfield change.

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The team effectively ran out

of ideas after the early goals.

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Matters could have been much

worse, still as minds played.

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Piled on toward the end, Rose lamented

the fact that a thin squad appreciated him

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from making personal changes on the half.

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On the bench today, attacking

options were slim, Rose noted.

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After a good opening 10

minutes, we lost energy.

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Little by little, you could tell at

the end of the first half that minds

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were getting into the game better.

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We sensed that we would

need changes today.

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Now it's not time to recharge

and engage in a razor sharp

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training week, Rose concluded.

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Three coaches in Leipzig's

shortlist for next season.

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Despite a home defeat at the

hands of a club he used to play

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for, Marco Rose will most likely

finish the season with RB Leipzig.

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However, the club is already

preparing for next season.

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RB Leipzig face another

slump in the Bundesliga.

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With the 2 1 defeat to Mainz,

as a Bo Henriksen side now

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jumped 2 4th in the standings.

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For now, qualifying for the DFB Pokal

semi final would give Marco Rosa the

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chance to end the season in the dugout.

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However Their working relationship

is seeing its final days after

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an underwhelming season in both

Bundesliga and Champions League.

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Sky now reports that there are

already three names on Leipzig's

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shortlist for replacement.

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While his name was first linked with

the club a few months ago, Eric Ten

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Hag is surprisingly not on the list.

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Meanwhile, Stuttgart's Sebastian

Honess is top of their wishlist, as

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the news was also confirmed by Kickr.

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There is a release clause

of around 8 million euro in

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Honess's contract at Stuttgart.

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On Friday the 42 year old played down

Leipzig's interest as he always maintains

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constant contact with Stuttgart.

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Stuttgart and Leipzig could cross

paths in today's Pokal final semi draw.

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According to Sky, Oliver

Glasner is another name

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currently discussed at Leipzig.

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The Europa League winning coach is

enjoying his time with Crystal Palace

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after a difficult start to the season.

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Marcel Schaffer's involvement could

certainly help Leipzig's case.

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But it'll take a huge effort

to bring back the 50 year old

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Austrian back to the Bundesliga.

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Roger Schmidt, who has been without a

club since August, rounds up the list.

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Due to his previous spell in RB Salzburg,

Schmidt looks to be the perfect candidate

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for the required RB principals, as

Leipzig aim for a fresh start next season.

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Leipzig boss refuses to commit

on under fire Rosa's future

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after latest disappointment.

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After another disappointing performance

and result for RB Leipzig, Marcel Schaffer

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didn't want to comment on the growing

pressure on head coach Marco Rosa.

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After an engaging 1 0 win over Wolfsburg

in the DFB Pokal in midweek, RB

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Leipzig was sent crashing back down

to earth with a 1 2 defeat at home to

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Mainz in the Bundesliga on Saturday.

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The defeat puts further pressure on the

shoulders of RB Leipzig coach Marco Rosa.

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On previous occasions, the 48

year old has been backed by his

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superiors to remain in charge.

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This time, however, Leipzig's

managing director for sport,

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Marcel Schaffer, wouldn't comment.

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One interpretation is that Schaffer

didn't want to back Rose without

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consulting Red Bull management.

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After all, it is not just Schaffer

who decides on coaching matters,

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but also the likes of Supervisory

Board Chairman Oliver Mintzlaff and

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Head of Global Soccer Jurgen Klopp.

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Rose himself felt his team lacked energy.

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There were two moments where we

simply didn't defend well enough.

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We didn't play with the kind

of energy that we need to.

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We didn't put enough pressure

on them when they had possession

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and didn't chase back enough.

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Rose said we more or less invited

them onto us and didn't work hard

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enough at either end of the pitch.

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We didn't turn up in the

period, which decided the game.

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One thing is certain, with Leipzig

having won just one of their last eight

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Bundesliga games, the upcoming clash with

Freiburg will be crucial, as well with the

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following match against Borussia Dortmund.

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And final piece of club news for

this episode is the cup draw.

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Leverkusen play third tier Bayerfeld

and Leipzig away at Stuttgart.

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Cup favourites Bayer Leverkusen

will be away at third tier club

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Armenia Bayerfeld in the last four.

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Meanwhile RB Leipzig's under

fire coach Marco Rosa will face

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a tricky trip to VfB Stuttgart.

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As Sebastian Honess side

Get another home time.

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Three leaguers at fifth place side

knocked out three Bundesliga clubs in

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their historic run in the cup semifinal.

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Mitch Kanat, who is younger than Xabi

Alonso, will be hoping to secure a

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first POCAL final for Bayer Field.

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Recent two time champions

Leipzig lost in both of their

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last two trips to the MHP arena.

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The Swabians last won the cup in 1996

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and Gervain Eber were in their ranks.

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That's all for the club

news on this episode.

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As always, you can find all RBL Library

Club news from credible sources all around

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the internet on the homepage at rbltalk.

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com.

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Now to preview the game against minds,

with the good, the bad and the ugly.

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In these cases it's always hard to find

some things that are good, because the

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brain always thinks of the negative,

but we do have some good things to say.

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I only committed 8 fouls,

mines committed 15.

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More shots inside the

box, with 10 out of 13.

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Only offside once, only one yellow

card, and 27 touches in the mines box.

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Mines also had the same, not

bad, but it could be better.

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Now for the bad.

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We look lost, out of position

often, no shape in our formation.

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We miss two big chances.

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Only 4 of 13 shots were on target.

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That's just 30.

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76%.

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Substitutions were poor

after going down 2 1.

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Taking off for Penda.

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him out wide to the right, player 3

4 3 flat, Chavi on the left, Sesko in

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the middle and Appender on the right

out wide and you keep the midfield

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4 the same along with the back 3.

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You can make changes in the middle and the

back line but you don't take Appender off.

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Yes, he's playing poorly for the

output but he has that pace and can

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cause defenders and defences trouble

and cause opportunities to arise by

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putting defenders under pressure.

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Too many passes in our own

half, 212 of 518 were in our own

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half, 191 in the mine's half.

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Poor on the contest, we lost the duels.

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53 to 65, ground at 44 percent

success rate and aerial at

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47 percent success rate.

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The keeper only made one save.

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Why did van der Voort get dropped?

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When he was close to, if not

best on ground in the DFB

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Pokal, just a few days before.

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And you can't say team

management for fatigue.

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He is barely played.

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Pathetic squad rate selections

and rotations by Marco Rosa.

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Finally, poor distribution.

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Only 28 percent accurate crosses, total of

5, 39 percent accurate long balls, total

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of 19, and 78 percent of regular passes.

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You want around at least 82

percent for just regular passing.

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And now for the ugly.

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Marco Rose's tactics.

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The club is going backwards, and yes,

it's going to be hard to find a long

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term replacement before season's end.

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But if we don't get an interim coach,

we won't play European football,

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especially if we lose and drop

points with our next five games.

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That being said, the club has said

they plan on a fresh start next

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season, whether that means with

Marco Rosa or not, time will tell.

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Now Marco Rosa is not the sole problem

of the problems that we currently have.

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There is some management issues above him.

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There is squad issues, which some as

partly to blame for Marco Rosa, such

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as morale and possibly squad depth.

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However, the latter is actually more

of a management issue as they're

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the ones that control the signings.

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Three things we learned.

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V mines number one.

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Many local fans are deluded by just

how bad we are under Marco Rosa,

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chanting and accepting mediocrity.

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Maybe we should become the Arnsberg

of the league, finish lower end to mid

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table each year, and they'll be happy

as long as Marco Rosa is the manager.

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Number two.

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We are now in a downward spiral.

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How far will we go come season's end?

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Don't expect anything

big until next season.

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But the season is done.

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And number three Squad

depth isn't good enough.

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Yes, I've been critical of

Marco Rosa, and rightfully so.

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However, we also have to admit, the

squad and players are good enough.

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Players are playing for themselves,

don't care about the club, and are only

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going out there to get paid it seems.

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Our leadership group also needs to

show some guts, and so does Marco Rosa.

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Be honest about the internal problems,

and the squad, and what is lacking.

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Those that can see, know what I'm talking

about, and if you don't, I hope you'll

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be enlightened sooner rather than later.

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As we go into the detailed summary and

recap of the Mines game, we will have

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a look at the player watch players.

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And they were David Raum for RBL,

and for Mines was Robin Zentner.

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David played the full 90 minutes, had

89 touches, attempted 37 of 49 passes

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at an accuracy of 76%, attempted 11

passes, only 3 accurate, attempted 6

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long balls, only 1 came off, attempted

1 dribble, and it didn't come off.

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was in six ground duels, he won four

of them, and he was also in three

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aerial duels, which he won two.

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Lost possession 25 times, was

fouled once, made two clearances,

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and made three tackles.

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According to the OneFootball

app, Raumi was rated a 5.

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0, and I would rate him a 5.

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5, as he lost possession 25 times,

which didn't help the game plan.

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Robin Zenner, who was the mine's

goalkeeper, played the full 90 minutes,

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had 48 touches, made two saves, one

higher claim, made 27 of 41 passes at 66%.

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Most of the long balls of

the 27, 26 of them were long

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balls, and only 12 came off.

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According to the one football

app, he was rated a 6.1

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and I would rate him a 6.8.

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Mainz completed an important comeback

against European rivals RB Leipzig

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to prevail 2 1 and climb up into

4th spot in the Bundesliga as they

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continue their quest for a maiden

UEFA Champions League qualification.

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A whopping 30 points separated these

two sides last season, but they

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came into this clash with only goal

difference keeping Leipzig below Mainz.

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The Red Bulls were keen for that

to remain the case come full time.

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Though, and started in lightning quick

fashion, not even a minute was on the

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clock when the host took the lead,

with Chavis Simmons steering home from

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close range after Amadou Haidara's

initial effort was sensationally

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blocked six yards from goal.

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The Malian had another chance to get

on the score sheet soon after, but this

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time he could only fire wide when he

ought to have doubled their advantage.

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It was largely an onslaught

towards the mine's goal in the

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first half, as the visitors spent

most of their time defending.

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They let their standard slip for a

moment midway through the half and were

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almost punished, but Benjamin Sesko's

effort flew inches wide of the target.

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Mines could surely only improve

after the break, and that proved

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to be true within 10 minutes of the

restart when the visitors drew level.

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Paul Neubel was the provider, working

his way to the byline before cutting the

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ball back for Nadim Amiri to sweep home.

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Mines tales were firmly up by that

point and they came close to moving

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ahead just moments later when Li

Jiang Song headed narrowly over.

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Lobzig didn't heed that warning and soon

found themselves behind for the first time

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on the afternoon when equalizing scorer

Amiri was again involved, threading the

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ball through for Jonathan Burkhardt, who

Swivelled in the area and saw his left

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foot effort nestle into the far corner.

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Amira was proving to be the thorn in the

hosts side and he could have wrapped up

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the game up 15 minutes later from time

but his effort crashed back off the post.

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That failure to put the game to

bed, set up a nerving ending for the

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visitors but they defended admirably.

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to see out a third successful league

win and open up a nice gap over a rival.

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Leipzig meanwhile now have to work

to do, to close the gap to the top

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four, leaving under pressure boss

Marco Rosa under even more scrutiny.

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Now let's talk those three goals.

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The first goal was a goal for

RBL in the first minute of play.

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The build up play started with a recovery

from Chad Bishabu from a poor throwing

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from Mainz on the right hand side as the

ball missed everyone and went centrally.

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Bishabu passed directly in front of him

to Amadou Haidara in the center circle.

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His forward pass was to Benjamin Sesko.

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Just slightly in front of him.

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Sesuke then turned and dribbled towards

goal, passing once in the final third.

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His pass went into the box to Lewis

Appenda, attempting to square the ball

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towards the penalty spot as he was

running towards the byline of the goals.

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Amadou Haidara met the ball and

attempted to shoot at goal, got a fresh

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airy and missed everything which was

fortunate as it fell for Chavi Simmons

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who made a right footed shot from very

close range to the top left corner.

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This goal looked messy but boy

was it effective and just took 15

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seconds from start of play to finish.

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The second goal and the first goal

for mine's build up play started

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as Chavi Simmons took on Moritz

Jens and lost his challenge.

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The second goal and first goal for

Mainz build up play started as Xavi

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Simmonds took on Moritz Jens and lost.

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As his challenge was successful, Jens

couldn't control the ball after his

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challenge, as the ball spilled free

with a recovery from Jay Lee Sung.

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He ran towards the left flank for Mainz.

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He passed through Philip Mai as three

RBL players were chasing him, Arthur

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Vermin, Amadou Hira, and Ra Baku.

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He managed to pass centrally between all

three of them to Nadiem Amir, who switched

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the play to the right with a pass to Paul

Bel, who passed back to Amir centrally

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with his pass heading into the box to

Jonathan Burkhart, who did a lovely.

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little first time flick pass to Paul

Neubuhl who took a shot which was blocked

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and parried by Peter Galacci with his legs

from his near post, the right goal post.

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Unfortunately for him and for

the RBL the ball went centrally

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where a lot of the players were.

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Gattruda cleared the ball not very far as

Amadou Haidara had to recover the ball.

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He then lost the ball with a quick

chain of Keishu Sano, Anthony Kaki,

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Paul Nibble, linking up towards the left

side of the pitch with a pass by Nibble

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getting a deflection of Willie Orban

and Nadim Amiri bearing home the finish

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with a right footed shot from the centre

of the box to the centre of the goal.

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Now how could we have prevented this one?

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The simplistic answer is don't

lose the ball in a dangerous area.

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Not even being able to get the

ball out of your defensive third.

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Next, we had Gertruda, Bishoebu

ball watching, and trying to

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run towards goal for no reason.

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Galachi is protecting the near post.

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At this stage, man mark,

or use zonal defense.

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Don't just be drawn to

the ball because of this.

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Gatruda, Bishabu, and Raidou

Baku get caught out here.

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These three players need to be better

at their defensive positioning, as

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the eventual goal scorer gets a clear

hit at it with nobody around him.

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He would have had enough

time before he put it in.

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His foot through it and be put

under pressure if he decided not

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to take a first time shot a goal

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The third and final goal of the

game, and second for Mines, came six

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minutes later, in the 58th minute.

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The build up play for Mines started from

a free kick, as Amadou Haidara gave away

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a cheap free by misplacing his foot and

tripping up Nadim Amiri accidentally.

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They moved the dead ball to the

right, and tried attacking down

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there after a clearance from Bishebu.

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The ball went back to Mines, and they

moved the play from right to left.

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Center down the left side and back

into the center with the final pass

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into the box coming from Nadeem Amiri

to Mainz captain Jonathan Burkhardt,

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who then took a left footed shot from

the left side of the box to where

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Peter Galacci was standing in the center

of the goal, although off balance,

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it easily went past Peter Galacci.

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Now how could we have prevented this one?

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It's very hard to defend

against one touch passing.

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Burkhardt nutmegs Chad Peshabu, and

he could've and probably should've

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put a challenge in, but Peter

Galacci just fell to the floor like

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a sack of potatoes, a very poor

attempt at a save from, apparently,

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the Bundesliga's best goalkeeper.

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Also, in the build up play, Aja

Vermeeren needed to put in a better

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challenge on the assister Amiri.

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I would have been more happy

giving away a foul there, and

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being able to defend a free kick.

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Instead, Arthur Vermeeren decides to go

for the challenge, and then, by the looks

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of things, pulls out halfway through.

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The best players for RBL were

Chubby Simmons, who created the

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most chances, four in the match.

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And Arthur Vermeeren, who was the most

accurate passer to play 45 minutes

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or more, with an accuracy of 93%.

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The best players for Mines were Naidim

Amiri, who completed the most passes

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of the match with a 65, Jonathan

Burkhardt, Jae Song Lee, Anthony

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Akaki, Andreas Hansa Olsson, Moritz

Jens who had the most tackles in the

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match with five and Kaishu Sano who won

the most duels in the match with 10.

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That's all for the

review of the Minds game.

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Now onto suspensions and

an injury list update.

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Antonio Nusa, with a knee injury.

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His estimated return date is late March.

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Osano Drago, hamstring injury.

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His estimated return date is mid April.

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Xavier Schlager, knee injury.

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His estimated return date is May 2025.

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And Benjamin Henricks,

Achilles tendon injury.

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Estimated return date, end of season.

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To preview the SC Freiburg game in

the Bundesliga, Freiburg are on a

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five game run of not having lost a

game since January, when they got

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beaten by Bayern Munich 2 1, with

wins over Bochum, Heidenheim, St.

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Pauli, Wörterbremen, and most

recently a draw against Arnsburg.

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There are questions around injured

players, Daniel Kofi Kairer, Manuel Gaudet

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and Max Rosenfelder, with the latter a

possibility to play against Ayrton Bullen.

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RBL on the other hand, already

missing four players, with questions

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around Christoph Baumgartner,

who is suffering a small illness.

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Most recently, RBL have been able to score

at least three goals against Freiburg,

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and the history between the two is

pretty even in Freiburg, as RBL have won

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five, Freiburg won four, and two draws

being played out in the eleven games.

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RBL are going to want to dust themselves

off and show the Bundesliga that they

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are still a top four candidate, as right

now, to the Bundesliga community and

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RBL fans, we are not a top four side.

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Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional

and can't grasp the actual positioning

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of the club and where we're currently at.

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I hate to say it, but we are

not currently a top four side.

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Some interesting match facts leading

into this game are, Freiburg are ranked

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third at home so far this season.

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Freiburg have scored nine goals

in their last five matches.

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Freiburg have won all four

times against RBL at home.

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RBL have scored 6 goals

in their last 5 matches.

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And RBL haven't lost to Freiburg

in their last 12 meetings, with

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9 wins and 3 draws being played.

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The player watch for both sides will

be, for Freiburg, it's Ritsu Doan.

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Doan has been one of the best

for Freiburg this season.

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He has added to his game with the

ability to score and assist with goals.

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He can turn the game

in favour for his side.

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There is also an honourable mention for

Vincenzo Griffo, as he's created the

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most big chances for Freiburg with 11.

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For RBL, it's Petty Galacci.

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I fully expect him to still be

between the posts in the next

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game, seeing as Marco Rosa doesn't

rotate that goalkeeping position.

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Joining first now for the most clean

sheets in the Bundesliga this season

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with Emanuel Neuer with 11, Galachi

has conceded 32 of the 33 goals RBL

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has conceded so far this season.

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He needs to pull his finger out

if we're going to get a top four

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finish this season, if he is still

insisted being picked by Marco Rosa.

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There's also an honourable

mention for Luis Appenda.

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As he has the most shots on target

per match for RBL, averaging 1.

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5 shots per game on target.

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Now what I'd like to see in

this match with my line up.

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If we're serious about turning our

season around and getting out of the

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spiral, Marco Rosa needs to be pulled up.

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Go back to basics.

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Van der Voort needs to start in

goal, a back three just needs to go.

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And go back to the

fundamentals of the 4 2 2 2.

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No fluff, no fuss.

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Experience would be key, as well,

to get the team morale better.

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So, going from left to right, in the back

four, it's going to be David Raum, Willy

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Orban, Kseli Keber, and, although I don't

like him at right back, Lucas Klosterman.

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Then in the central defensive

midfielder roles, Kevin

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Campbell, and Arthur Vermeeren.

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Arthur Vermeer has been doing quite well

for himself lately and deserves a start.

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And the central attacking midfielder

rolls, on the left, Chavi Simmons.

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If Christoph Baumgartner is up for it

and can play, I will put him in the

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right central attacking midfielder roll.

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Otherwise, this is also going to be a

bit of a questionable decision, but with

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the squad that we have at our disposal,

and the players we have, and Marco Rosa

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not playing Tidim Gomis, which is who

I would pick to put in the debut in

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this position, would be Amadou Haidara.

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He's good enough to play as a number

8 box to box midfielder, he can

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shoot, he sometimes can't be clinical,

but he's definitely going to be

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able to get himself into positions.

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and be able to shoot and score,

most likely, if he's up for it.

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And then the front two,

Benjamin Sesker, Lewis Appenda.

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Like I said, no fluff, no fuss.

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For predictions, I want to be an

optimist and say a two, two draw, but

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I'm going for another loss this time.

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Three, two, as Galachy will start and

we will concede too many with the back,

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three with plays outta position, I can't

really predict anything else except any

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result that a win probably isn't gonna be

on the cards as I, like I said in the last

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episode, I just can't see it happening.

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Show and show us the debut of Gomes.

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Get whatever fans travel.

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Happy to see one of their new signings.

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And now it's time for

the RBL talk segment.

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Remember, you can be a part of the

show too with the RBL talk segment.

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You need to come on the

show as a special guest.

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The way you do this is by interacting

with us on Spotify social media such

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as X or email in at show@rbltalk.com.

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More information in detail on

how to get involved with the

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show for free in the show notes.

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We have some submissions today from

the RBFans discord community, some

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from X and also some from Instagram.

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first is from the RBFans

discord community.

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Rob3r70 says it should

be Rose's last match.

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Because it's a disaster, again.

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I know how you think there, but

unfortunately, it's just not going to

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happen, as the club has already said.

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We're going to be sticking with

Marco Rosa to the end of the season.

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We also have another submission from

NITROSO on the RBFans Discord community.

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They said, Constantly, The S word.

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For those that have kids or are listening

to kids in the room, you can educate your

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young ones what that S word is if you so

choose, but it's not a very nice word.

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How can a single player

not have a good game?

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Can't even remember the last game

where the entire team showed up.

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Yep, pretty much no player

on the pitch had a good game.

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Like I said, Arthur Vermeeren and

Chavi Simmons were the best on

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ground, but they were certainly

far from having great games.

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There's really nothing else I could

say, and sometimes it's hard, with

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the way our team is at the moment,

in, , being positive and also picking

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good players on the pitch, especially in

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And I honestly can't even remember

the last game where the entire team

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showed up off the top of my head.

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However, it would have been a Champions

League game, and as sad as it sounds,

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probably one of the ones where we

lost, for instance, like the Juve.

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We played so well, the whole entire

team played well, and it was just

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experience that costed us in the end.

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Next is from Gavin from X.

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Says via a direct message.

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Hi RBL Talk, Irish Leipzig fan here.

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Love your work.

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Keep it going.

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I was thinking if Leipzig win

the DFB Cup, we should keep

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Marco Rosa for one more season.

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But if we get knocked out or lose the

final, he should leave in the summer.

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And we bring in Eric Ten Hag as manager.

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The lads are good enough

to win the Bundesliga.

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Take care.

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Couple of things to dissect there.

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Thank you for listening over

there in Ireland, Gavin.

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It's good to know that the

podcast is reaching more and

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more countries every episode.

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I will always keep doing

the work and keep it going.

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I do this podcast for every single

listener, and that includes you.

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, You were thinking, if Abelabsic

win the DFB Cup, we should keep

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Marco Rosa for one more season.

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Now, the only issue that I would

see with that is that, tactically,

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you're still going to be the same.

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And, unless there's a big, big change,

and that includes getting more squad

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players as well, and that's not a

knock on Marco Rosa, that's a knock

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on our upper management, above Marco

Rosa, who control the signings, then,

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You know, we're just going to look to

the same football again next season.

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Now, that being said, winning a DFB cup,

you should still be rewarded for that.

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So as painful as it may be, as I want

what's best for the club and going

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forward, it doesn't seem that Marco

Rosa is best going for the club.

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As at the moment, it just seems

that , it's a PR stunt for owners Red

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Bull, having a local man at the helm.

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, I would still reward him, but only give

him a month or two and see how we go.

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As soon as you do any little thing, you

already have another manager in waiting.

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Now, if we were to replace him

with some of the rumours that are

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saying Roger Schmidt, then it's

just going to be the same thing.

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It doesn't matter if it's Marco Rosa,

Roger Schmidt, it's, I don't see

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a big turnaround in the football.

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We really need to get back to

our fundamentals and the basics

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of what made this great team.

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I said earlier episodes that I thought

Marco Rosa was quite possibly gifted a

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couple of trophies, being the DFB Pokal

and the Super Cup, because after those

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wins, we've started to see the Marco Rosa

football, which is completely different to

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the normal Red Bull philosophy football.

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So some of that's still there.

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But it's almost non existent now.

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Would be good to see

Eric Ten Hag as manager.

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However, I do think RB Leipzig

are going to be pushing hard

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for Sebastian Honnes first.

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The lads are good enough

to win the Bundesliga.

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I can agree with that.

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However, it's the squad depth

and also the manager that are

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stopping us from winning that.

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I can't see us winning the Bundesliga

with Marco Rosa at the helm.

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It doesn't matter what squad

that we have, even if we had

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the best squad in the world.

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World football.

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I still can't that see

that being the case.

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However, the lads we have are

good enough and have quality.

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We just need to maximize the squad

depth so that if injuries happen

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and rotating for players, something

that Marco Rosa doesn't do.

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People say that it's

because of the squad depth.

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Well, you can still rotate players.

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And Ballum from X also from Direct Message

says don't worry about the recent no

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live stream Stuttgart away tough on paper

Good test for team and a good practice

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before his final you'll have one or two

contracts To preview this match in near

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future Lucky buyer they have Armenia

away Yes Why Levi CuSum got the really

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good draw against Armenia Biofield.

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I personally said that I didn't

want to get Armenia biofield anyway.

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I would rather have stood Gut or

Levi CuSum because I feel that

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we're going to lose the next

game in the d FP podcast anyway.

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Didn't matter who we played.

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And , as critical as I have been on

manager Marco Rosa, I know what it's

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like to , , be scrutinized all the

time with everything that you do.

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Hey, as a content creator and a

podcaster, I'm also scrutinized all

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the time with everything that I do.

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So I understand how manager

Marco Rosso is feeling.

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So I would rather have

there be excuses for him.

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Against, , the likes of Leverkusen

or Stuttgart, which are currently

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better squads and sides than us.

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So if we did lose, it's not going to be,

oh, well, an embarrassment and we lost

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against Armenia, you know, by a field.

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So at least you have that, but

like, look, we were just beaten

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by another competitive side in the

Bundesliga, which is a respectful

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way to go out of the competition.

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I will be, however, doing a live stream

in the next game against Freiburg.

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So if you're available and not doing

anything, make sure to check that out.

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, streaming on all platforms.

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rl9louifan on Instagram

says, Not much to say.

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We played a great first half, but

then everything ruined in the second.

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Our best player tonight was Travis

Simmons, and our worst three were 1.

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Lewis Appenda 2.

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Rydell Baku 3.

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Lutus Shirel Gertruder Rose out.

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I understand what you mean

there by not much to say.

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It is sometimes very difficult to

say certain things and, , some people

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at times, we're lost for words.

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I was originally lost for words

when I, , got the prediction right.

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It was something that I knew

that was kind of becoming.

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It was something that I fully expected.

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I didn't just guess it, but I wanted

us to, I wanted myself to be wrong.

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I wanted us to still be able to win.

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That being said, Lewis Appenda

definitely played a terrible game.

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Not so much Raito Baku and the

Distraught Gatruder, but they were

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equally just as bad as each other.

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I do think it is time for

Rose out, unfortunately.

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PIA__HFFMR from Instagram says, I

don't think it's the coach, it's

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the overall performance of the team.

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I agree with that statement,

but only in part, as I don't

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think it's just the coach.

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So it's not just Marco Rose's fault.

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That being said, how long can he

produce and be in the position that

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he's in before, like I've always

said, how long does it start being

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a public publicity stunt for owners

Red Bull to have a local at the helm?

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, PR for public relations, so it's a good

look, it's good for business, it's good,

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you know, good in that retro guard.

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But it's not about the football.

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And that's, at the moment, to me, from

an international supporter's perspective,

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it's not about the football at the moment.

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It doesn't matter where we end up.

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Like, who cares at this point?

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, it's all about manager Marco Rosso,

we've got the local at the helm,

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we've got a local fan base, , yes,

the local fans, they are key.

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They are the ones that

put the bum in the seats.

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They're the ones that pay for the tickets.

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They're the ones that are

the voices in the stadium.

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My part as an international fan is

giving a voice to every single person.

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Doesn't just mean local fans, but every

single person around in the world.

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And I want them to have that voice.

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And they are Most of them,

with me, a general consensus of

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we're fed up with this football.

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Yes, it's not just Marco Rosa's fault.

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I know that.

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Most fans know that.

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Most fans, they don't like Marco

Rosa for one way or another.

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For me, it's just his tactics.

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If he can turn his tactics around and

make us play better football, I would

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love him to be at the helm for the next

ten, Or whatever years it may be, and

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have a long, successful relationship.

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We've already won

trophies with Marco Rosa.

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He's shown that he can

win things at RB Leipzig.

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But at the end of the day, when are we

going to be going down to this spiral

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of, we're going to be a mid table club.

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Is this going to be something that

is expected of us going forward?

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Yes, it's not.

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Always the greatest, especially

with how the Red Bull model is.

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We get these good young players, we build

them up, we get them better at their

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trade, and as they're starting to reach

their prime, we sell them off for profit.

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Look, it does work.

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We've shown that.

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But you also need to have a good

Manager, fundamentally able to

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teach the players all the Red Bull

philosophy and work on the players

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strengths and also work on the players

negatives coming through the ranks.

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That's what makes us such a

good side getting in there.

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I hope, I really do hope if Marco Rosa

does go, that all the management at

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Red Bull, they really think about this.

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Because the next manager is key and

it can't be someone just in the same

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mold as Marco Rosa and anyone else

in the Red Bull system as before.

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It simply won't work.

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We need someone fresh.

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We need someone with new ideas.

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They need to be brought to the

table and then injected the Red

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Bull philosophy in how we play.

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That there.

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will make the club more dynamic

and better going forward.

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As always, I'd like to thank the

contributors for their contributions

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in this episode in RBL Talk.

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All RBL Talk members, and thank

you for listening to this podcast.

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If you could take a moment to

rate us while you listen to this

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podcast, write a quick review,

tell a friend about the show.

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It really helps us find new

listeners and grow the show.

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So until next time,

I've been Justin Croser.

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Bye bye for now.

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Dedicated supporter since '09 from Adelaide, South Australia Justin has followed his football team from afar and has never looked back. Justin has an undying love for RB Leipzig, tactics and football as a whole. RBL talk is aimed to give everyone a voice around the globe and Justin's welcoming nature and professional delivery comes out across the podcast episodes released.

Timeline
'09 - '12: Justin first started out watching games of fans live streams during the games until RB Leipzig got promoted into the 3. Liga

'13 - '16: Justin watched his favourite club climb through the ranks including being promoted to the 2. Bundesliga in their very first season in 3. Liga in the 2013/2014 season.

'16 - '20: Justin watched the rise of RB Leipzig as the club came onto the domestic and world stage including the remarkable 67pts runner up season to Bayern Munich in our very first season in the Bundesliga the top flight division in German football. A fantastic but also dreaded feeling the emotions of football.

'20 - '24: Justin witnessed and felt first hand the highs and lows of football winning our first DFB Pokal trophies in '22 and '23 respectively but also getting beaten in the semi-finals of the UEFA Champions League and beaten in the 4-1 demolition job of the DFB Pokal final in 2021 which sparked creating the podcast.

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